Monday, November 10, 2008

for your perusal.

here are the posts i have been able to whittle it down to. i'm trying hard to leave out ones i feel are somewhat extraneous, and not have too many here. because i actually would like you to read them and take them in if you're interested in the discussion. to give you a good idea of where my thoughts are at now, and how they got there, before i try to sort out a post of where i think we're at, and where i think we could head.

instead of titles, i'm going with dates.

August 10th, 2005
October 8th, 2005
December 19th, 2005
January 4th, 2006
Febrauary 28th, 2006
March 5th, 2006
April 8th, 2006
March 17th, 2007
July 12th, 2007
August 14th, 2007
June 17th, 2008
July 9th, 2008
July 17th, 2008
August 1st, 2008
August 6th, 2008
September 6th, 2008


Valorosa said...

Lots of good shibeanits.


Erin said...

Thanks Jon. Some good reads.

I don't remember the first time you and I met, Jon, but it's taken me this long to even begin to get a grip on the way you think. For the longest time my religiosity wouldn't let me hear some of the things you said, but over time I have shed my religious skin and am happily on my way to being a more ethereal being. Thanks for being a breeze through all that. (This is not to say you don't still shock me, but these days I usually recover fairly quickly ;-)

However, that said, the question of the day remains. "What next"?

Sue said...

What next?

I don't know if that's an answerable question in the Church of What's Happening Now :)

I was stressed this afternoon as I left work. Just worrying about the myriad things available for us to chow down on if we want to worry about something. And then, walking in the sun (sorry Erin) I stopped and thought of God and smiled because s/he is beautiful and said, "Wow. I haven't been asking 'What next, Papa?' very much lately, have I?" And it felt like God smiled at me and suddenly everything got very simple and I just like fell back down to earth and into my shoes and came home and am cooking and am going to do some drawing lately and just ... little stuff, you know? And being in that space meant I wasn't all stuck in my own head and so at the checkout counter when I was counting my money to ensure I had enough money to pay for my purchases PLUS catch the train tomorrow (Payday Thursday) and the people in front of me seemed to be struggling to pay for their stuff but it turned out they weren't. But the thing was I wasn't so stuck in my own head that I couldn't say to them, Hey are you guys okay? and figure that I could lend them a few bucks and then borrow my fare from my brother when I got home and it all turned out fine.

Which was a really boring story now I typed it. But my boring dull point of it all was that just falling into God and the "Whats next" mentality throws me out into the whole world and a whole shitload of things Im worried about fall away because God is God of Now.

Which doesn't answer your question at all, Erin. All I know is "What next?" in the old way of Christian thinking was a stresshead experience, and "What next?" in this new incarnation is joy and simple and utterly beautiful. That's what I think.

Which still doesn't answer your question. I don't know.

Hey, it's been fun hanging out with you guys today :)

Erin said...

Oh I don't really think there is an answer either. I'm just asking Jon because he seems to know things ;-)

I agree that "What next" in this incarnation is different. I don't think it's about something to do, but a new way of being. I can tell you I miss having a community in real life (like the one I have online), but there just isn't hardly such a thing in real life that isn't still "church". I don't want to be preached at and I don't want to have sweeping rules-for-everyone, and I don't want to sing Jesus is my boyfriend songs. It's like, I've learned all about this Jesus thing...I don't need any more lessons, I want to LIVE IT! Eventually we graduate from university and go on to do what we've been taught to do. That's what I want, rather than this "perpetual preschool" most church seems to be.

(When we do go to church, we go to a place called the Bridge, and I love it and just in case anyone reads this comment and wonders, I don't feel that way about the Bridge. Because they ARE doing what we've been taught, but they are almost 30 minutes from my house and I don't want a place where we just go on Sunday mornings, but it's too far to be more involved than that.)

jON said...

erin, i believe we met around...

here. this is where first contact was made.

(interesting post for nate and i to come out of the woodwork, no?)

and i believe you first found your way into our circle here, and that's how we found you. :-)

Erin said...

Wow thanks for doing the checking, Jon. It sure seems like it's been longer. I guess time flies and all that!

Anonymous said...

Thanks for this post, I am considering talking about the same in my blog. financial help
You nicely summed up the issue. I would add that this doesn’t exactly concenplate often. xD Anyway, good post…

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