Thursday, January 04, 2007

it's a jimmy thing #1

13 comments:

jON said...

Ja.1:2-3"Consider it all joy, my brethren, when you encounter various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance."

this i know.encountering trials does indeed produce endurance. and at this point, in all honesty, i'm still a little dazed and disoriented and having trouble counting it all joy. the tide has washed out leaving behind some unpleasant things that i am now trying to deal with and conquer. like a newfound temper and pool of anger that was not there before.

JA 1:20"for the anger of man does not achieve the righteousness of God."

and this verse has much to say to me to try to calm me down and let this pool evaporate.

"But if any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all generously and without reproach, and it will be given to him."
what a picture of a god who is accessible to all and will to give to all who ask of him.

"Pure and undefiled religion in the sight of our God and Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their distress..."

which is something i am trying to get better at. not ignoring the need around me in my immediate world. and for some reason, i consider single mothers who have been quite abandoned by the fathers of their children to fall in this category, and i do what paltry things i can to help them out. be it monetary(less) or emotional(more).

"...and to keep oneself unstained by the world."

any thoughts as to what this means?

Lexi said...

yeah i like it.

jON said...

what do you like?

Wendy ftfs said...

It means don't spill coffee or blueberry juice or chocolate on your white shirt LOL

Brought some chocolate eclairs ... anyone?

I'll be back ... I have to read the chapter first ...

hugs

Wendy ftfs said...

vs 25
But the man who looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues to do this, not forgetting what he has heard, but doing it—he will be blessed in what he does.

....before this there is talk of a man looking in a mirror and then walking away and forgetting what he looks like ... can you imagine forgetting what you look like? This is the same as the man who hears the word of God but does not act upon it. We've all been there ....

Freedom is what Christ was all about ... look intently into the perfect law of grace that gives you the freedom to love unconditionally.

Another part I really like here and there is so much good stuff here ... is this
vs 4 "Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything." ... a soldier trained and ready for battle ... a workman trained and ready to work.

jON said...

yes, yes, yes. the freedom to love. the freedom to draw near to anyone, no matter where they are. beautiful.

Susan said...

I must say I struggle somewhat with v.2-4 and can't help but think that given the choice I would probably choose to be immature and trail-less! which makes me think I must be missing something in these verses.

I do like v.5 especially the fact that God gives without finding fault.

"polluted" in v.27 seems to me to be a strong word perhaps suggesting we are going to get a bit dirty living in the world but it should only be to the extent of needing our feet washed (John 13:10).

jON said...

well, having your faith tried certainly isn't fun. and i'm sure, given the choice, we would all choose to stay trial-less. or at least i would. so, i'm with you on that one, susan. as far as i'm cnocerned, i would rather the last half of last year not have happened. :)

i'm still curious. is this staining or polluting an internal or an external thing, then? is this vague on purpose? does it leave room for you, god, and your conscience to work together? do you think that james had something specific for all people everywhere in mind, or is it left slightly ambiguous because god knows this will be different for everyone? any thoughts? i'm going to try to find that word in the greek and see if it does anything for me.

i'll be back.

Nate said...

Looking at the pollution, I believe it has a lot to do with Job. As Job lay there with everything gone, he still stay unpolluted in spirit. Though not in body. He finally did become polluted by the constant prodding of his friends. But God was more than impressed with the faith that he showed, and forgave. Jon, with the experiences that you went through, betrayal would seem to me to be at the top of the list for your anger. Please ask God to help you forgive those that did this, no matter if you want to let go of it yet, or not. Just give it to God, and let him deal with it. Remember, happiness is part of living in Grace. If the happiness is gone, only God can replace it.

Wendy ftfs said...

You are being torn from the place of comfort ... into the living world of the Holy Spirit ... an exciting world indeed ... a more peace filled world than you have left ... believe it or not ... but ... you will have to let go and accept its lowly, yet fulfilling position when you are ready ...

I'm thinking that you may have asked the Lord to do this for you ... not knowing how or under what circumstances he may do it ... He's pretty cool ...

Susan said...

v.27 Maybe it is different things for different people. For me not being "polluted" means not filling my mind with excessive TV etc. since I find my mind will continually think about what I have watched and not about those things I should think about ... true, noble, right, pure, lovely, admirable things.

According to Piper (author of Desiring God) we are suppose to experience joy in the midst of trials since His joy is the strength that gets us through the trial but I'm still thinking about how this works.

Wendy ftfs said...

I don't think I agree with Piper ... there is very little joy in a severe trial such as losing a child or a divorce or a betrayal of someone you have trusted and considered a friend or a myriad of other things that plague the human race ... we are to consider it joy meaning that this is something that will make you perfect and entire, wanting nothing, but the trial itself is rarely pleasant and it is ok to feel that way at the time ... there is a grieving process, pain and there are no feelings of joy in it.
The joy of the Lord is our strength ... because we know we are loved no matter what is happening to us ... and we know that love from our God will keep us and heal us and somehow work together for our good.

jON said...

from what i can deduce, the pollution or staining is something that leaves a mark on your inner being, corrupting the purity of your relationship with god and the resulting life that comes from that. whatever that life may be. which, then, to me, would seem to be a very personal thing as to what it would be for each person. because what will distract and damage my inner being will not be the same for you and vice versa.

thank you nate for your admonition. i DO want to forgive. i have been ready to let go since the beginning. i don't like having my inner being fucked with like this. i don't enjoy the coursing darkness and negativity taht comes to find me at different times. and mostly, i want to stop arguing with these people in my head. i just want it gone. and fortunately, since the start of the new year, things have improved greatly and i feel much more like my old self again.

as to joy in pain... there are moments when the world is falling apart and you have peace and joy abundant. rest in that. and at othre times you are shredded and have nothing resembling those emotions. i say be honest about that as well. for it is hard to move on when you don't even know where you are truly at. i have just seen too many of "job's comforters" running around doing far more damage than they know in situations like these. as greg boyd said on a radio sermon i heard a couple of weeks ago, "what job's friends are saying may be theologically accurate... that sometimes god does send horrible consequences on people for sin, that is not always the case. and to use truth in such a fashion as this misses the scope of our loving god entirely. to use truth to shove down a person who is already hurting... to use truth to tell a parent who just lost a child, 'this may be your fault after all...' is abusive and wrong and has existed in the church for far too long."